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(Unlawfully) Arrested Development: The Criminal Lawyer’s Guide to Intentional Torts and Police Powers

Law as stated: 27 November 2024 What is this? This episode was published and is accurate as at this date.
Barrister Alex Ionita, joins David to explore the world of intentional torts, discussing various cases from alleged false imprisonment to malicious prosecution. Sharing valuable insights about how to build a strong defence case to an intentional torts claim, they analyse the various police powers awarded under LEPRA, and the key defences available under different torts.
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27 November 2024
Alexander Ionita
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How does it work?
What area(s) of law does this episode consider?Intentional torts; false imprisonment and malicious prosecution. Defences; lawful justification and self-defence.
Why is this topic relevant?Building a strong defence for intentional torts claims requires a deep understanding of not only legal and tortious principles, but their application to high-pressure circumstances.

This kind of work often places practitioners at the centre of some of the most complex intersections of the law, where their role is not only about defending actions but also about understanding the nuanced balance between the powers granted to police officers and the rights of individuals.

Some recent decisions handed down by the Court of Appeal have raised questions of what constitutes false imprisonment, how powers of arrest are lawfully exercised, and when police should be able to detain, seize and arrest without warrants.

What legislation is considered in this episode?Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act 2002 (NSW) (‘LEPRA’)

Evidence Act 1995 (Cth); Evidence Act 1995 (NSW) (‘Evidence Act’)

Civil Liability Act 2002 (NSW); Civil Liability Act 2003 (Qld); Civil Liability Act 2002 (WA); Wrongs Act 1958 (Vic) (‘Civil Liability Act’)

What cases are considered in this episode?Hannam v State of New South Wales (No 9) [2022] NSWSC 648

  • The plaintiff sustained severe injuries after jumping from a fourth-floor balcony while intoxicated and under the influence of drugs, during which police unsuccessfully tried to stop him with a taser. The plaintiff argued that the police’s actions constituted battery, assault, and negligence, holding the State of New South Wales vicariously liable. The court found that the taser’s use was lawful under statute, the plaintiff’s intoxication and dangerous actions were significant factors, and the Civil Liability Act‘s dangerous recreational activity defence defeated the claims.

Lake v Dobson (1980) (1981) 5 PS Rev 2221

  • An individual was arrested for nude sunbathing at a bay in Coogee. It was argued that arrest, being equivalent to an additional penalty for most people, should only be used as a last resort and only when a summons would not suffice. The court found that arrest should indeed be reserved for situations of clear necessity and emphasised that less intrusive measures should be prioritised when possible.

DPP v Carr [2002] NSWSC 194

  • Carr was arrested for offensive language after swearing at a police officer, with the situation escalating to charges of resisting arrest, assaulting police, and intimidation. It was argued that the arrest was improper because the officer knew Carr’s identity and address, could have proceeded via summons or a Court Attendance Notice and acted out of expediency rather than necessity. The court found the arrest improper, upheld the exclusion of evidence under section 138 of the Evidence Act, and confirmed the officer’s recklessness in disregarding proper procedures.

R v McClean [2008] NSWLC 11

  • The defendant was approached by police investigating a suspected break-and-enter, provided her identification, and attempted to leave but was restrained, arrested, and charged with assaulting and resisting police. It was argued that the arrest was unlawful because it was for investigative purposes, not for commencing proceedings, and did not satisfy the statutory requirements of section 99(3) of LEPRA, as the police already had her identity and no suspicious circumstances warranted arrest. The court found the arrest unlawful, emphasising that arrest solely for investigation is impermissible under section 99(3), that arrest is a last resort, and any subsequent detention based on an unlawful arrest is invalid.

New South Wales v Robinson [2019] HCA 46

  • Mr. Robinson alleged he was wrongfully arrested because the officer lacked reasonable grounds to believe arrest was necessary under section 99(3) of LEPRA, specifically to prevent a repetition of an offence. It was argued that for an arrest to be lawful, the arresting officer must both honestly believe and have reasonable grounds to believe the arrest is necessary for one of the purposes specified in s.99(3), with “necessary” implying that the action is essential or indispensable. The High Court upheld the Court of Appeal’s decision, ruling that an arrest is lawful only if it is made with the intention, at the time, to charge the individual and take them before a magistrate, and that arrest cannot be justified for mere questioning or investigative purposes.

Hunter New England Area Health Service v A [2009] NSWSC 761

  • The court addressed the legal status of an advance healthcare directive where a patient, Mr. A, refused dialysis and the hospital sought confirmation of the directive’s validity. It was argued that a capable adult has the right to refuse medical treatment via an advance care directive, and if clear, unambiguous, and applicable to the situation, such directives must be respected, with administering prohibited treatment constituting battery. The court found that medical necessity can be a defence to intentional trespass torts in emergencies where consent cannot be obtained, but an advance healthcare directive negates the defence if it explicitly applies to the circumstances.

NSW v McMaster [2015] NSWCA 228

  • The plaintiff was shot by police, and while his claims of negligence were unsuccessful, the trial judge ruled that the shooting constituted a battery. It was argued that the police officers’ actions were protected from liability for battery due to the legal principles governing their duties, including the provisions of section 230 of LEPRA. The court found that the police officers’ actions were lawful and reasonably necessary under section 230, which made what would otherwise be a battery lawful in this context.

A v State of New South Wales [2007] HCA 10

  • The plaintiff was arrested and charged with sexual offences against his two stepsons. The plaintiff argued that the police officer lacked reasonable grounds to charge him, particularly in relation to the charge concerning the younger boy, where there was evidence suggesting the boy might have fabricated the story. The High Court agreed that the police officer lacked reasonable grounds for the charge related to the younger child but found there was sufficient basis for the charge concerning the older child, emphasising that prosecutors must have reasonable and probable cause, not just potential for further inquiries.

Beckett v New South Wales [2013] HCA 17

  • Roseanne Beckett was convicted in 1991 of offences against her husband, but her convictions were quashed in 2005, and the Director of Public Prosecutions decided not to pursue further charges. Beckett later filed a claim for damages for malicious prosecution, with the key issue being whether she needed to prove her innocence to maintain her claim. The High Court allowed Beckett’s appeal, ruling that a plaintiff does not need to prove their innocence when the prosecution has terminated in their favour.

Wood v State of New South Wales [2018] NSWSC 1247

  • Gordon Woods was initially convicted of the murder of Caroline Byrne in 2008 but was later acquitted by the NSW Court of Appeal, which found the conviction unreasonable and criticised the prosecution and expert witness. Woods subsequently brought a claim for malicious prosecution, arguing that the case was pursued without reasonable cause and with malice for an ulterior purpose. The court agreed that the prosecution lacked reasonable cause, criticised the Crown Prosecutor’s actions, but ultimately dismissed the claim, finding no evidence of malice in the prosecutor’s conduct.

HD v State of New South Wales [2016] NSWCA 85

  • Police obtained an interim Apprehended Domestic Violence Order against a father after his daughter reported an assault, but later denied being hit by him. The father claimed unlawful arrest and malicious prosecution after the assault charge was dismissed, arguing that the prosecution lacked reasonable and probable cause. The Court of Appeal upheld the trial judge’s decision, finding that the prosecution was not motivated by malice, the police acted within their public duty, and there was a reasonable basis for the charge.

State of New South Wales v Spedding [2023] NSWCA 180

  • Mr. Spedding was wrongfully arrested and charged with child sexual assault offences in 2014 as part of an effort to apply pressure in the investigation of the disappearance of William Tyrrell. The plaintiff argued that the arrest lacked reasonable grounds, was malicious, and that the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions should be liable for malicious prosecution, while also asserting misfeasance in public office and abuse of process. The Court of Appeal upheld the primary judge’s decision, finding that the police officers lacked reasonable and probable cause, and that their actions were malicious and constituted misfeasance and abuse of process, though the ODPP was not liable for malicious prosecution.
What are the main points?
  • Intentional torts refer to a group of torts committed against a person, including battery, false imprisonment or unlawful detainment and malicious prosecution.
  • The powers that police officers have are outlined in LEPRA. LEPRA contains most police powers, with some common law powers existing outside of it.
  • Police often commit intentional torts lawfully in the execution of their duties. For example, they commit battery when they put handcuffs on them to arrest them. As such, police can access the defence of lawful justification to defeat any tortious claims. This defence hinges on whether the exercise of that power was valid, which requires consideration of reasonable suspicion and other requirements in LEPRA.
  • Consent plays a crucial role when police officers exercise their power to search individuals. A search is validly executed if a person willingly submits to it by giving consent.
  • Police officers have the power to conduct searches without a warrant under LEPRA if they have reasonable suspicion that a person is in possession of something illegal. The test for whether suspicion was reasonable is objective.
  • The Evidence Act allows challenges to the admissibility of evidence obtained during an unlawful arrest, emphasising the importance of reasonable grounds for arrest. The case of Carr reinforced that unlawful arrests undermine legal integrity, making evidence obtained through such means potentially inadmissible.
  • Self-defence involves consideration of the conduct preceding the act of self-defence. It is important to assess the reasonableness of the defendant’s subjective belief that they were in danger and the proportionality of their response.
  • The tort of malicious prosecution involves four elements:
    • Proceedings initiated against the plaintiff by the defendant, usually in the criminal sphere;
    • Proceedings terminated in favour of the plaintiff;
    • Initiation or maintenance of proceedings acted maliciously; and
    • The defendant acted without reasonable and probable cause.
What are the practical takeaways?
  • Intentional torts is an emerging area of law which involves cases against individuals or entities, not just the state of New South Wales.
  • Law students should gain exposure to both plaintiff and defendant work in this area, as it can be rewarding and important in protecting the rights of individuals and law enforcement officers. This exposure can help in understanding and addressing issues such as police powers abuse and protecting vulnerable individuals who may not have the resources to pursue legal action.

DT = David Turner; AI = Alexander Ionita

00:00:00DT:Hello and welcome to Hearsay the Legal Podcast, a CPD podcast that allows Australian lawyers to earn their CPD points on the go and at a time that suits them. I’m your host, David Turner. Hearsay the Legal Podcast is proudly supported by Lext Australia. Lext’s mission is to improve user experiences in the law and legal services, and Hearsay the Legal Podcast is how we’re improving the experience of CPD.

On today’s episode of Hearsay, we’re talking about intentional torts, especially torts relating to public order and the use of police powers like the torts of unlawful detention and malicious prosecution. Building a strong defence for these sorts of tortious claims requires a deep understanding not only of tortious principles, but also their application in high pressure circumstances, like police work.

Now this kind of work often places practitioners at the center of some of the most complex intersections of the civil and criminal law, where their role is not only about defending actions, but also about understanding the balance between the powers granted to police officers under the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act 2002 (NSW), or LEPRA as we’ll be calling it today, and the rights of individuals.

Some recent decisions handed down by the Court of Appeal have raised questions about what constitutes false imprisonment, how powers of arrest can be lawfully exercised, and when police should be able to detain, seize, and arrest without warrants.

Our guest today is Alexander Ionita, barrister at 11th Floor Garfield Barwick Chambers. Possessing a keen interest in criminal law and intentional torts, Alexander is speaking from experience today in how to successfully construct defences and execute effective courtroom strategies in intentional torts cases.

Alex, thank you so much for joining me today on Hearsay.

AI:Thank you for having me today, David.
DT:Now, I’m excited to get into this topic. I used to practice in this area many years ago at a community legal center. So I’m excited to hear about it from the defence point of view and some of the reported cases in this area but before we get into our topic for today, tell me a bit about how you came to be interested in intentional torts.
00:02:07AI:So, before I joined the bar, been at the bar for a little while now, I was a police officer for 13 years. So as part of that policing career that I did, I spent about five years in uniform work. I did uniform, so in motor vehicles, what you would call general duties, and I moved on to proactive crime. I assisted detectives, and that meant that I was more of a proactive based policing, conducting searches, conducting arrests, being out there in the community, rather than being reactive to police work as we generally see the police in police cars and police uniform. And so I understood, quite well, search powers, arrest powers, from that experience then I moved into prosecutorial work which meant that I would be advising legally, and prosecuting matters on behalf of the New South Wales Police. I did that for seven years, that was the majority of my time in the police force, then I left, went to the bar, and here I am today. Most of my practice is focused around crime and torts work, and so a lot of it is quite interrelated. I joke and I say, well, you could flip the script and say, what I said as a prosecutor, you reverse it as a criminal practitioner, and again, with the intentional torts, which is focused specific on the state of New South Wales, same sort of deal. So that’s me in a nutshell. And certainly it’s been a long road to get here. Spent many years studying whilst working full time, but I’m very grateful for that opportunity to be here and thank you for having me today on the show.
00:03:45DT:Thanks for coming. And I think that time in uniform would give you a really unique perspective on intentional torts work because it gives you an understanding of just how difficult the job is and the conduct that we’re arguing about when we’re talking about police torts cases or intentional torts cases, that the conduct or the response to difficult, complex, evolving circumstances that we pick apart and dissect for months and years is split second decisions made in very high pressure circumstances by professionals doing a very difficult job and I suppose you have a unique perspective on just how difficult that job can be.
00:04:24AI:Well, absolutely it is. A lot of police work, especially reactive police work, so uniform work, what you call general duties, is very labour intensive, it’s very time intensive, and it’s a very explosive situation because it happens very quickly. Everything happens quite quickly in that atmosphere. A lot of the matters that you see through the courts, whether it be crime, whether it be torts, or whatever, they happen very quickly because police have to react in an immediate manner. If you were at a call triple zero for anything that occurs, it’s usually the police that are the first ones to attend any sort of scenario, whether it be a significant traffic accident, a mental health episode, and so everything happens within a matter of minutes, whereas we, here at the bar, and my ability here at the bar to dissect that and look at it realistically and then, if I need to, pick it apart for a criminal trial, is certainly an uncommon ability.
00:05:21DT:Yeah, it’s a rare luxury, I suppose, to be able to do that. Now we’re talking about intentional torts today, these are the torts that we probably all remember being taught at law school. In practice, after we’ve left law school and we’ve started our careers as lawyers, we often use torts almost as a synonymous term for actions in negligence. It’s so much more common. When we’re talking about intentional torts at a broader level, an intentional tort can be committed by any person, any tortfeasor, right? There is a tort of battery, for example, that a private person could inflict upon another private person and that private person could bring an action in tort against that first person. There’s a collection of those kinds of intentional torts and we’re talking about battery, we’re talking about trespass to the person, we’re talking about unlawful detention or false imprisonment, and we’re talking about malicious prosecution, the kinds of intentional torts that while they can theoretically, be committed or conducted by any private person tend to fall into a category of torts that can be committed by the state of New South Wales and in particular the New South Wales police.
00:06:27AI:Yes, correct. Now, I practice mainly in the state of New South Wales, in other words, police powers. So we can umbrella intentional torts as the overreaching, but we go a little bit further than that and go into actions against various institutes in the state of New South Wales. The big one coming out of any sort of royal commissions where there’s a duty of care but if I can hone it down today to simply actions against the state involving powers used by police or circumstances that involve police.
00:07:00DT:Yeah. I suppose one other thing to observe is that these kinds of torts often come in groups in the sense that, I remember from my experience, if it was alleged that there was an unlawful imprisonment then it would be very common to also allege that there was a trespass to the person in the form of a battery of some kind, because the person was placed in handcuffs and that there would be several of these intentional torts actions brought together, the commonality between all of them is that the case really turns on whether the exercise of police power was justified under the Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act.
00:07:32AI:That’s right. So that’s where the main torts, because it’s plural, come from but it’s really a group of torts committed against the person that intentional torts refer to. And it can be, as you said, the battery, the unlawful detainment, the malicious prosecution, the unlawful trespass doesn’t have to necessarily be a battery, it could just be words, but it becomes a trespass because someone’s detained through the use of words but yes, that’s what it is.
00:08:00DT:It makes sense then to start with LEPRA, Law Enforcement (Powers and Responsibilities) Act, and explore what powers police officers have under that legislation and the limits of those. So we know that police officers have certain powers. Probably, notably, the power to arrest someone under LEPRA. They also have the power to stop someone and search them, for example. What are the extent of those powers?
00:08:25AI:Most of the powers that the police officers have are within LEPRA, so the Law Enforcement (Power and Responsibilities) Act – I call it the police bible, and simply because that’s what it is. When you are taught to become a police officer at Goulburn, the academy, they expect you to know those powers under LEPRA pretty much in your sleep. You are taught that you should know them, you should be able to recite them in your sleep, and certainly that’s where LEPRA comes into it. Now, most police powers are contained in LEPRA, however, there are some common law powers, very rarely used, that exist outside of LEPRA but when we talk about intentional torts, justification for actions, reasonable force, we start talking about LEPRA. It’s very rare that you find anything outside of that and in plaintiff work, your statement of claim would be directed at, was there reasonable grounds or suspicion? Define the actions and then conversely, as a defendant, you would say, “well, there is reasonable justifications because of 99 or 21 or 36,” whatever it is, part of LEPRA.
00:09:29DT:Those provisions that you mentioned, are those particular powers conferred on police officers under the Act?
00:09:34AI:Yes. So, when we start talking about LEPRA, most of LEPRA contains the justification or the ability for police to use their powers, and it’s not just read singularly, because we know that a power to arrest would be under 99, but to use a reasonable force. So they all work in unison, and you can’t just use one, or it’s very rare to have one used without having a number of them used.
00:09:58DT:Yeah, that makes sense and that carries over, I suppose, into the action against the state. As we said, you commonly see assault, battery, false imprisonment, or unlawful imprisonment, pleaded all together because they naturally come together as a consequence of the use or misuse of the power. And keeping that in mind, recognising that we’re often talking about a bundle of what are technically discrete actions, but what they all have in common is the exercise of police powers. Maybe we should just quickly talk about the elements of unlawful detention or false imprisonment. What are the elements?
00:10:30AI:So we start talking total deprivation of liberty. It’s usually in the form of either a word spoken or a battery, so a touching of a person. Most of the time, it occurs in that kind of context, so a police officer may tell someone that they are under arrest, and they may also lay their hands on the person. In other words, if that person protests and says, “you can’t arrest me,” the police officer says, “well, I can, and I’m going to stop you from moving,” so in other words, the deprivation of liberty, “if you decide to try to run away, I’m going to put my hands on you.” So it may start off with just words spoken. It may be a battery, so trespass or trespass of the person laying the hands on, or it may be simply a scenario where it’s so quick, everything happens quite quickly and it’s just physical action to stop them, whether it’s a wrestling with someone or if they’re running away and it’s a grabbing of them as they’re running away and ends up into a scuffle, as you sometimes see through various movies and criminal shows. So the physical restraint and the total deprivation of liberty is essentially that it takes away someone’s freedom to be able to walk away. It’s an action onto someone where they can no longer walk away. You’re grabbed or told, then you’re placed in a vehicle or a truck in the back and then you’re placed in a police station. So your ability to move around is totally deprived. And that’s where that deprivation comes from.
00:12:01DT:Yeah. And I suppose those are the clear cut examples where there’s a statement that that person is under arrest and is therefore deprived of their liberty or physically restrained. What’s interesting is that sometimes there are these edge cases, these uncertain cases where it’s not immediately clear, or perhaps it’s in dispute whether that person has been deprived of their and I’m thinking in particular of circumstances where a person might be stopped, police officers might make inquiries of them, they might request to look in their bag, for example but the interaction stops short of an arrest or formal search. There’s then sometimes a pleading that that person has been deprived of their liberty in the course of that interaction. Is it necessary for the tort of unlawful detention that a person be deprived of their liberty and that they know it?
00:12:48AI:It’s not necessary because if a police officer stops you and tells you that they’re going to search you and then you can’t just give them the bag and walk away, they’re stopping you from doing that and you willingly submit to that power, that’s itself a detention. Your ability to move around is deprived and that’s where that deprivation comes from but it’s not an arrest because it’s a different power under LEPRA. Consent can come into play because when that power comes into play that it’s done by consent. So for example, if you are stopped on the street and the police officer says to you, “can I look through your bag or your backpack or whatever it may be?” And you say, “yes, you can.” You give them that bag, then even though at that point in time, you are detained, you’ve consented to that execution of that power. It’s different if the police officer stops you and tells you that they’re going to search you and then you protest because that’s an execution of that power but if it’s by consent and you willingly submit to that power, it’s a different scenario. You would expect that if you are a person who consents to a search and you have nothing on you that constitutes a criminal offence, then you’d be free to go quite quickly. What will then follow is you might be taken to a police station or police vehicle or you might be held at the location for a number of minutes while you’re given something to go to court. That’s how that usually works. If we look at an arrest, purely that, it’s usually on the basis that they’ve committed or there’s reasonable grounds to suspect that this person has committed an offence. So it’s not usually something that’s ever been suggested or done by consent. I couldn’t see a person being willing to be arrested for something. It’s usually done against their will, and most people will protest to that effect. An arrest is done because something pre-exists that. So an offence or some kind of detection or something has caught the mind of the police officer sufficiently to then deprive you of that liberty.
00:14:45DT:And I suppose we should observe here, we’re talking about it in theoretical terms where there’s a really bright line between the exercise of a power and the non-exercise of a power, but of course the disputes in these matters often turn on whether or not a power has been exercised, in the sense that what a police officer says or doesn’t say in a particular situation can be interpreted, or a plaintiff might allege that a power has been exercised, the state might allege that it has not been exercised, and then there are other considerations that come into play like the exercise of these powers so far as they concern a young person. Request to look in the bag of a 35 year old and the request to stop and “can you empty your pockets for me” for a 12 year old, very different situations. Can you tell me a bit from your experience about some of the ambiguities that come into play when you’re dealing with, I suppose, a question of whether or not a power has been exercised?
00:15:40AI:When a power has been exercised, it’s reasonably clear most of the time that it has been. So you might get told that you’re being searched or you might get told that you’re being arrested. Sometimes you might be in a situation where a person would try to walk away and then they physically stopped from doing so. The ambiguity comes into play more to do with searching. As you said, the 35 year old being asked to consent versus the 12 year old being asked to consent and what you’ll find is that the courts then come into play, they temper and they will say, “well, you’re right. LEPRA says that you can do this, but you have to put it into the circumstances of what occurred.” A person who is a minor might not understand their legal rights to consent, or you might need a support person there at the time to have them understand, or you need to explain to them a bit more about what you are doing, rather than just simply saying, “hey, can you open your pockets? We’re going to search you” as a police officer. So, a person who is at the age of 35 would understand their rights a lot better than a child and that’s where that difference comes into play. And when I say the courts, that’s where you have matters going to the local courts, to the magistrates courts in New South Wales and the magistrates deal with most of the execution of power duties, whether it be searches, whether it be arrests, whatever it may be because that’s the majority of the crime work that comes through the state of NSW and that’s how disputes may arise as to lawful execution of their powers but then the magistrates safeguard it. So you have a judicial officer who is the observer on the outside and says, “well, Mr. Police Officer, you can’t do that because the safeguards that we have expect you to behave in a different way.” And so that’s the difference there and we have that safeguard and that buffer.
00:17:22DT:Let’s talk about the exercise of powers. Then we know that LEPRA provides that police officers can search a person, detain a person, arrest a person with a warrant, that’s uncontroversial. In what circumstances can those powers be exercised without a warrant?
00:17:40AI:So we look at LEPRA again. If we start off with a search without a warrant, we would look at 21 of LEPRA, which is the power for a police officer to search a person if they have reasonable suspicion that they have something in their possession. Of course, it’s at that point in time when a police officer does it and of course, as we know, when police officers do it, because they are experienced in what they do, they may also have a hyper awareness of things where normal people might not. So when we start talking about searches, they might see things that a normal pedestrian might not pick up. So that’s why you have that test at that point in time, the reasonable suspicion, the reasonable grounds.
00:18:18DT:You’re saying the reasonable suspicion test is applied having regard to the state of mind of, say, a reasonable person.
00:18:25AI:Well, it is a reasonable person test. So I’m just talking about purely at that point in time, the state of mind of the police officer and the grounding of that reasonable grounds and reasonable suspicion occurs at that point in time. Then it’s whether it’s reasonable or not. Then at some point later when it’s reviewed, if it’s reviewed by a judicial officer, that’s when that reasonable person test comes into play. So what I’m talking about is, police officers, because they’re subject to what they do, they might visualise things because they’re exposed to criminal activity all the time. “Oh well, I know Fred, so therefore Fred, walking on the street at this time of night, might be up to no good.” So what I’m saying is, purely at that point in time, they’re not allowed to, without a warrant, search that person and that will then get scrutinised if it does at a later date. Now, that’s for 21. 36, when we start talking about powers of search and stop vehicles, again, we apply the same test at that point in time, the reasonable grounds for reasonable suspicion test, committing an offence, and then we go into the arrest, which is 99. There are a number of search powers littered throughout LEPRA, but I think 21 and 36, which is the power to stop someone, how to stop a vehicle and search a vehicle without a warrant are the bigger ones. They’re without warrants. And then we go into 99, which is the power to arrest without a warrant. Those are the big main three that you would see in intentional torts litigation.

TIP: Alex just mentioned sections 21 and 36 of LEPRA, that’s the Law Enforcement Powers and Responsibilities Act, quick reminder. Section 21 is the power to search a person and seize and detain things from that person without a warrant. Section 36 is the power to search a vehicle and seize things from that vehicle without a warrant. 

In New South Wales, police possess the authority to detain and search individuals, but this power is limited to specific circumstances. If a search is later determined to be unlawful, any evidence obtained during that search might be excluded at the court’s discretion under section 138 of the Evidence Act – we’ve talked about that on the show in the past. 

According to the sections, a police officer can detain and search a person or a vehicle if they have a reasonable suspicion that the individual possesses or controls certain items. Now, these include anything stolen or unlawfully obtained, items used or intended for use in the commission of an offence, dangerous articles related to offences, prohibited plants or drugs, laser pointers. Each case hinges on its specific facts and interpretations of what constitutes reasonable suspicion can vary.

00:20:52DT:I just want to go back to your example around the exercise of the power of search on reasonable grounds, or based on a reasonable suspicion, as you observe, it is a reasonable person test. The power can be exercised in those circumstances. The example that you gave where a police officer sees a person who’s known to police.
AI:Very common scenario.
DT:Yep. And by virtue of them being known to police alone, chooses to search them, do you say that’s a lawful exercise of the power?
00:21:21AI:Absolutely not but that’s the scenario that may be faced in intentional torts or in the criminal sphere, which is then tempered by the judicial officer at the end of it, whether it be a magistrate in the local court or a judge in the district court, intentional torts but you have to understand that the belief of the police officer occurs at the time. You hone in on everything that they’ve known. So simply seeing someone that they know up to no good, they may do that.
00:21:48DT:Yeah, you’re saying that’s an example of a search conducted by a police officer because of their…
AI:Call it hyper awareness.
DT:… hyper awareness, their knowledge of this person and their past offending maybe, or their previous interactions with police, that is not a lawful exercise of the power, but one that you can see how that police officer might’ve arrived at. One that I remember from my own experience in the intentional torts area is, as an example of an unlawful exercise of power to search, was a pair of police officers observed a group of teenagers at a train station. They were wearing a particular brand of clothing. I think it was…
AI:A particular brand of shoes.
DT:… a particular brand of shoes, yeah. And the cops report, which is the computer system that police used to record incidents noted that they were wearing clothing that’s popular with young people while committing vandalisation or damage to property offences. Now, merely the fact that they were wearing that clothing does not entitle them to exercise the power to search…
AI:They may have done so anyway.
DT:… but they had experience from their previous interactions with other people in the community wearing that sort of clothing that led them to exercise the power on that basis. So yeah, important distinction we make between the reasoning that might lead a police officer because of their particular experience in policing to exercise the power and whether or not that power is in fact exercisable under LEPRA on that basis. So we’ve talked about the powers that can be exercised, the circumstances in which they can be exercised with and without a warrant, and a little bit about the concept of reasonable grounds. Now, where a power has been exercised based on a reasonable suspicion, there is a defence available known as lawful justification. Can you tell me a little bit about that defence, the elements of it and how it works?
00:23:29AI:You could umbrella it and say, well, lawful justification may be a reasonable exercise of the power, or maybe a justified search, maybe a justified arrest based on circumstances, trespass, battery, whatever it may be, against the state, if they’ve engaged in certain conduct. Lawful justification, and it would have to be very much particularised in any statement of claim defence, would step through LEPRA. That’s how you start and finish your defence to lawful justification. So for example, if it is alleged that the tort is one of unlawful detention, then the justification would start off by stepping through LEPRA, through the lawful arrest powers. And let’s use an example of an arrest on the basis of a complainant. So what is common a scenario these days, domestic violence, and you can hear it in the media, but if it’s arrest based on a complainant giving evidence, now what I mean by that is via way of a statement, a written statement, whether or not that may be foundationally true before a court of law at some later stage, if that arrest can be justified, because a police officer believes that complaint at that point in time when they take that statement, then LEPRA and the arrest powers come into play.

TIP: So Alex just spoke about the example of domestic violence, and whether that might be considered reasonable grounds for an arrest. Another decision that was handed down recently, or relatively recently, relating to intentional torts and police conduct was a 2022 decision of Hannam v State of New South Wales (No 9) [2022] NSWSC 648 – this was a Supreme Court decision. 

Now this case is useful in the context of violence or perceived violence and intoxication. In that case, the plaintiff suffered severe injuries after jumping from a fourth floor balcony following hours of alcohol and MDMA consumption. Police were called to the scene due to the plaintiff’s erratic behaviour and were attempting to prevent him from jumping. Despite attempts by one officer to stop him by using a taser, the plaintiff jumped and the taser discharged while he was in mid-air. 

The plaintiff sued the state of New South Wales, holding it vicariously liable for the police’s conduct, alleging battery, assault and negligence. Justice Adamson ruled against the plaintiff, the use of the taser was deemed lawful. Justice Adamson found that the plaintiff’s consumption of illicit drugs had played a key role in the incident, and ruled that the dangerous recreational activity defence under the Civil Liability Act was applicable, effectively defeating the claims of negligence and battery. In addition to the state succeeding on a self-defence, defence as well.

In that domestic violence scenario because there was evidence to support the allegation of an offence then it would be the reasonably necessary part that a police officer would have to identify. This is, of course, as a defendant speaking to a police officer, your informant who is the subject of the tort, you would be taking instructions from them, conferencing them, and you’d ask them to go through their justification for it. So you would go “reasonable grounds because of XYZ,” “reasonably necessary.” In that domestic violence scenario, for example, there may be a need to separate both parties because they both reside at the house. There may be a need to stop a future offence occurring because of that proximity, and then it’s placing them before a magistrate and all those elements of that lawful arrest come into play to then enliven lawful justification.

TIP: So Alex just mentioned that the test for a legal arrest hinges on the officer having reasonable grounds for arrest, which considers the position and knowledge of the officer at the time of the arrest as well as some other factors. 

Under LEPRA, arrest should generally be used as a measure of last resort, only when alternative actions like warnings, cautions, or the issuance of a court attendance notice are insufficient. This principle was illustrated in Lake v Dobson where it was deemed inappropriate to arrest an individual for a minor offence, in that case it was nude sunbathing, when there was no pressing need for physical custody. Arrest should also be avoided when the individual poses no risk of evading a summons or failing to appear in court, which was the case in Carr, where the court emphasised that the decision to arrest should be carefully considered especially for minor offences. 

However, that said, section 99(1) of LEPRA says that a police officer can arrest a person without a warrant if they have reasonable grounds to suspect that the individual is committing or has committed an offence and if the arrest is reasonably necessary for specific purposes outlined in LEPRA. Those purposes include things like preventing the continuation or repetition of the offence, stopping the person from fleeing, establishing the person’s identity if it’s unclear or falsely presented, ensuring that the person appears in court, securing evidence, preventing interference with potential witnesses and protecting the safety and welfare of others involved. 

Now the gravity of the offence can also justify an arrest if it’s deemed necessary due to the nature of the crime. Once an arrest is made under this section of LEPRA, LEPRA mandates that the officer must promptly present that arrested person before an authorised officer. The concept of reasonable grounds is central to determining whether an arrest without a warrant is lawful. The test for reasonable grounds is an objective one, primarily, requiring the court to examine whether the facts and circumstances at hand would lead an ordinary person to reasonably suspect that an offence is occurring or has occurred. This standard isn’t met simply by a police officer’s subjective belief. It has to be based on tangible facts or evidence that would justify suspicion in the eyes of a reasonable observer. This requirement of an objective basis for reasonable grounds was clarified in McClean which underscored that the arresting officer’s subjective suspicion has to be supported by a set of objective facts that could justify that suspicion.

Reasonable grounds for arrest as defined under LEPRA involve specific criteria that have to be met to justify the necessity of an arrest, including the knowledge of the police officer at the time of the arrest, as Alex mentioned. In section 99(1)(b) LEPRA outlines that an arrest is justified only when it serves one of several outlined purposes, like preventing an ongoing offence or securing the individual’s appearance in court. That approach is reinforced by the exclusion of investigative purposes for the list of valid reasons for arrest, meaning that an officer can’t justify an arrest solely for the purpose of gathering information about an offence. 

The High Court in McClean emphasised that reasonable grounds must be based on a direct link between the officer’s suspicion and the objective facts observed, as opposed to an arrest motivated solely by the intent to question or investigate. The standard of reasonable grounds also excludes arbitrary or unsupported bases for suspicion. Generalised traits like appearing nervous, wearing particular types of clothing… Those are insufficient grounds for arrest unless additional context supports a reasonable suspicion that an offence has occurred or is likely to occur. 

In cases where an arrest is deemed unlawful due to a lack of reasonable grounds, then again, section 138 of the Evidence Act does provide a mechanism for challenging the admissibility of any evidence obtained during that arrest. Again, this principle was reinforced in the case of Carr, where the court highlighted that unlawful arrests compromised the integrity of the legal process and therefore evidence obtained in those circumstances might need to be excluded. Section 138 of the Evidence Act is a good reason why lawyers practicing in the criminal jurisdiction might want to know whether or not an arrest is lawful or unlawful, as we’ll be discussing later in the episode, because if an arrest constitutes an actionable, intentional tort of false imprisonment, then the search and the arrest are invalid and any evidence obtained in the course of those actions are potentially inadmissible.

If we start talking about self-defence, whether it’s statute or whether it’s common law self-defence, then we can start talking about whether there was criminal conduct prior to that. So if there is an allegation of a tort because something between the time period of the arrest and then taking them to a police station during that time has occurred, but that conduct then becomes serious, so if the plaintiff’s own conduct is serious, then we start talking about self defence. What was the police officer doing at that point in time? So the reasonable belief and the reasonable necessary to do what they did. So with the defence of self-defence, you have those two elements. With the defence of the lawful justification, you have, if I can put them, three elements, reasonable grounds, reasonably necessary, and then before the magistrate, put them before an authorised officer to be dealt with, which is the third element.

00:31:38DT:Tell me more about that element. How is that satisfied?
00:31:40AI:So, the main case to do with unlawful arrest is Robinson v State of New South Wales, High Court case. It’s really only since Robinson that it’s become very clear that there is that element in lawful arrest that they need to be placed before an authorised officer to be dealt with in a reasonable time. And the purpose of that is quite obvious. If you have someone that’s alleged to have committed a criminal offence, then they need to be put before, in the state of New South Wales, a magistrate for them to be determined, whether it’s bail, being refused bail, entering pleas of guilty or not guilty. So, the point of that is to start the legal process for that person to then be able to engage their rights in a reasonable time. So that element is quite important in itself. The examples that you might see post Robinson v State of New South Wales is where persons have been taken into custody and then it’s many years before they get released. Just because someone’s taken into police custody and arrested, it doesn’t mean that police don’t have the power to discontinue the arrest. That still exists. However, when they’re not charged with a criminal offence or no action is taken against them, that third element, the element of being put before a judicial officer in a reasonable time, can undo the arrest process itself and that’s important because if a person is arrested most of the time it’s going to be because a criminal offence either has occurred or there’s a detection of that to occur. So police officers don’t just arrest a person with a hunch, if I can call it that, but they may not have evidence, or they may not have enough evidence, and then simply try to investigate a person. The example might be is if they arrest someone and then they interview them and then that evidence is gained through that interview. So it safeguards the individual’s rights because it communicates to the police officers, “hey, you can’t just arrest someone unless you have a reasonable basis to do so and you’ve got the evidence to back it up,” because once that occurs, you can’t then simply investigate it at that point in time.
00:33:55DT:I suppose one thing that we should make clear for our listeners is that element of taking a person before an authorised officer is an element of the lawful exercise of the power under LEPRA rather than an element of a defence to a common law tort. Although we’ve been talking about, and you specialise in these kinds of intentional torts brought against the state of New South Wales, and in particular the New South Wales police, as we said at the top of the episode, private individuals can be subject to actions in tort for false imprisonment, assault, battery. So, for a person who maybe isn’t subject to LEPRA, so not a police officer, not a licensed security guard, for example, are there any other defences available at common law for those kinds of intentional torts?
00:34:34AI:Self-defence is the big one that I spoke about. Common law self-defence is available to any person because there’s no limit, if I can put it that way, it can be applied to any kind of tort. If you are a defendant in a tort matter and you’re being sued in tort, you can still bring about self-defence and that can discharge the plaintiff’s case fully but of course, it has to be justified, just like everything else.
00:34:59DT:Yeah. And the level of force, I suppose, has to be reasonably necessary. Although, tell me a little bit about the extent to which the proportionality of the force used or the proportionality of the response by the defendant who pleads self-defence, tell me about to what extent that is determinative of a defence pleaded on those grounds.
00:35:21AI:So, the proportionality does play a role in it, of course. With policing, it would be different from a normal person, but I’ll talk about the normal person. So if one person is being sued in tort and their basis for the defence is self-defence, there’s two grounds for that reasonable belief and then proportionate response to that. The belief is the subjective element. So in other words, “do I believe in my mind truthfully, that what I needed to do was what I should have done in self-defence?”

TIP: So Alex just mentioned the defence of self-defence. Other defences to trespass against the person include things like necessity, like a medical emergency, where a patient’s life is at risk and obtaining consent isn’t feasible, like the case of Hunter New England Area Health Service v A (2009) 74 NSWLR 88. And the other defence is consent, which we spoke about briefly at the start of the episode. 

In New South Wales, self-defence is also regulated by part 7 of the Civil Liability Act, which applies to civil liability for personal injuries, and that legislation limits damages for disproportionate acts of self-defence, stating that reasonable acts in response to unlawful conduct will not result in liability. In NSW v McMaster [2015] NSWCA 228, the court upheld the availability of self-defence in civil cases, noting that it applies if the defendant has reasonably believed that their actions were necessary to protect themselves or protect another person. Although the defendant’s specific reaction to the threat is a relevant consideration, it’s not the sole deciding factor. The court also clarified that the term “unlawful “in section 52 of the Civil Liability Act includes tortious conduct, not just criminal conduct, meaning that this section can serve as a defence against liability for actions taken in self-defence in response to a tort. 

Regarding consent, if a person consents to an interference or an injury, it’s not considered wrongful. The burden is on the defendant to raise and prove the defence of consent, of course, but if consent is established, then claims in tort for assault, battery, or false imprisonment will not succeed.

If you’ve got someone, for example, who was walking towards you with an iron bar, then proportionate response to that might be, well, I need to push them away if they’re coming at me.

00:37:26DT:I suppose the classic example of the subjective element to that belief is the example of a person being threatened with an unloaded gun.
00:37:35AI:Like a normal person would have difficulty distinguishing an unloaded gun from a loaded gun.
00:37:39DT:A person would have a belief in that circumstance that their life is in danger. They would be reasonable in believing that the gun is loaded?
00:37:49AI:Yes.
00:37:49DT:And their response would be proportionate to that belief. Not to the objectively verifiable set of facts, which is that the gun was unloaded and to a degree harmless, but their belief that it was loaded and life threatening.
00:38:03AI:That’s right. So because we are just talking about belief, it’s just purely the subjective element. So in the scenario of the unloaded gun being pointed from one person to another person, then the belief of the second person, who has the gun pointed at them, may be that they may have a loaded pistol which then they take out and fire at the other person. Now, I know this is talking about a wild west scenario, but if we look at that scenario itself, if the unloaded gun being pointed to the other person, and then they take out a firearm and shoot the other person, thinking, “I’m going to be shot, so I might as well try to get this person before they get me,” that might be proportionate.
00:38:46DT:I want to talk about malicious prosecution, which is sort of the odd one out in intentional torts cases. As we said at the top of the episode, we commonly say assault, battery and false imprisonment pleaded all together. They all arise from the same set of facts. Malicious prosecution arises in a very different set of facts. They effectively result from the decision to charge. Tell me a little bit about. the elements of the tort of malicious prosecution to start off with?
00:39:08AI:So, the tort of malicious prosecution, usually it’ll be found in the group of torts that we’ve just spoken about. There are four elements, and the first one is whether proceedings were initiated against the plaintiff by the defendant, so that may be a private prosecution, which is quite rare, most of the time it’s going to be in the criminal sphere. So the state of New South Wales and the prosecutor who acts on behalf of the state of New South Wales commence criminal proceedings against the person. The second element is that the proceedings are then terminated in the favour of the plaintiff. So in other words, you might have a trial, you might have a jury, jury might discharge the defendant in the criminal proceedings who then becomes the plaintiff in civil proceedings. You may not even have the stage where it gets to a trial, you might have negotiations or withdrawal, dismissal. The DPP may no bill it as they used to, so in other words, they just say, “well, we’re not going to continue the proceedings” or they are withdrawn, but it’s got to be terminated in favour of the plaintiff. Now those two, one and two, are generally quite easy and they’re not really in dispute. We move on to three and four, which are the ones that are usually the battlegrounds. So three is that in initiating or maintaining the proceeding, acted maliciously, so that requires, there’s two steps here. So, there’s initiating or maintaining the proceedings acted maliciously. I’ll talk about maliciously towards the later part, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that once the proceedings were initiated, then that’s the end of it. So it may be that throughout the criminal proceedings or the private prosecution, something damning comes to light that causes serious doubt about the case of the prosecutor or the plaintiff in the criminal proceedings. So then you’d say, well, maintaining the proceedings, was there any malice to it? Initiating the proceedings, was there any malice to it? And this one and four is the sort of key battleground. In four, the last one, we say that the defendant, so in other words the person being sued, acted without reasonable and probable cause. Reasonable and probable cause is to initiate the proceedings. So that it may be an abuse of process in a private prosecution. It may be that there was never any sufficient evidence in a criminal prosecution, even to the minimum standard. So, that’s the probable cause. Now, just because there is no evidence to support a charge in the criminal sphere beyond a reasonable doubt, that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s without reasonable and probable cause.
DT:What is that standard of proof exactly?
AI:So, reasonable and probable cause requires the circumstances of each case individually, and it’s at the time, through the investigation process or whatever it may be, we ask the question of the prosecutor, did they act in initiating or maintaining the proceeding with a reasonable and probable cause? So, the no evidence scenario may have issues with probable cause. The scenario where there’s something objective, for example, footage, CCTV footage, that casts some serious doubt on the information that a police officer has been given by someone who’s given them their evidence, their statement. Those questions are asked at the reasonable and probable cause juncture. Leaving something out, again we’ll talk about this later, or not investigating, then it’s without reasonable and probable cause. Probable cause is probable cause. Was there any evidence to initiate these proceedings? If the answer is no, then you have without probable cause.
00:42:52DT:I suppose as a civil litigator, I’m thinking about an analogous test that a solicitor on the record must be satisfied before filing a statement of claim. There are reasonable prospects of success.
AI:Reasonable prospects.
DT:And we know that that doesn’t mean better than even. We know it doesn’t mean that they have to be satisfied in their own mind that on the balance of probabilities, the case will succeed. It can be a worse than even chance that the proceedings will succeed, but some reasonable prospect, it’s lower than that balance of probabilities, better than even sort of threshold. Is it a fair comparison to make between probable cause and reasonable grounds for success?
00:43:33AI:Yes, it is because the prosecutor who initiates the charges doesn’t need to think in their mind, “well, this will be beyond reasonable doubt. That’s a winner, for sure” but they still need to have evidence to support the charges. There can’t be no evidence whatsoever because then that becomes a without probable cause issue. So it’s not about, just like in any sphere of litigation, it’s not about putting a number to it and attaching an absolute certainty but it has to have some kind of merit.
00:44:00DT:Yeah. And again, we’re talking about the kinds of cases here that are so beyond the pale that they warrant an award of damages. The ideal situation here, we’re not talking about the ordinary course, we’re not talking about best practice or the ethical duties of a prosecutor in bringing or not bringing a charge, we’re talking about the circumstances which are so outside of the ordinary course that it would be justified in granting an award of damages to the person charged. So we should just make that clear. We’re not describing that in the ordinary course a prosecutor can bring charges where there’s hardly any evidence at all or where they failed to investigate certain things. We’re just saying those are the circumstances in which it may be possible to bring an action in malicious prosecution.
AI:That’s right.
DT:Before we run out of time, I do want to talk about the requirement that the prosecution be malicious. So the element of malice, which in any tort involving malice, like malicious falsehood, for example, is quite a high bar to satisfy. Tell me a little bit about that element.
00:44:56AI:So malicious is not incompetence. It’s not buffoonery. It’s not negligence. It’s malicious. So, improper purpose may be one. The great example is the case of A v State of New South Wales, where the arrests and the detention were not an issue, the High Court looked at it and went, “well, okay, they’re justified.” What came out through that is that the police officer, being pressured through his investigation, admitted that “well, I should not have initiated proceedings against this person.” So there’s that malice right there. It requires that dishonesty about it, which is why it has to be proven to the Briginshaw standard, higher than simply just on the balance of probabilities. Malice is malice. It’s malicious. It’s done dishonestly. It’s done in a way that it’s not for the proper purpose of a criminal proceeding. So, malice is simply that. It’s a dishonesty for the bringing about the proceedings. It’s not just while that may be negligent and you may be scrutinised. You may have adverse comments. You may be reprimanded. You may have to go through procedures. You may have complaints filed against you but if it’s done dishonestly, if it’s done with a malice, if it’s done outside of the purposes of proper criminal proceedings against someone, then that’s where malice comes into play. And that definition of malice is, it requires a dishonesty beyond just normal errors or negligence.

TIP: So Alex just mentioned that for a claim of malicious prosecution, a plaintiff has to prove that, one, proceedings concluded in their favour, and two, that those proceedings were initiated without reasonable or probable cause, and with malice. The concept of malice centres on whether the prosecution acted with an improper motive, or for an ulterior purpose beyond mere duty. 

In Beckett v New South Wales, that’s a High Court case, the High Court clarified that plaintiffs don’t need to prove innocence, rather it suffices to show that the case concluded without a judicial finding of guilt. This allows plaintiffs to claim malicious prosecution without needing to re-litigate their innocence if the prosecution was dropped, for example, or some other similar circumstance. 

Malice itself requires more than just a flawed or erroneous prosecution. For example, in Wood v State of New South Wales [2018] NSWSC 1247, Gordon Wood claimed that his murder prosecution lacked reasonable grounds and was motivated by malice, citing failures by the Crown Prosecutor and expert witnesses but the court found that despite serious errors and unfairness, the prosecutor’s actions were not driven by malice or a personal agenda, but were rather an unfortunate misjudgment.

Similarly, in HD v State of New South Wales [2016] NSWCA 85 despite police charging a father with assault after his daughter retracted her allegations, the court held that there was no malice, as the officers were fulfilling public duties and acted on an honest belief in the evidence’s credibility. So malice requires proof of improper motives, not merely professional mistakes or inadequate judgement. 

One example of a high profile case of malicious prosecution was the case of Bill Spedding. In early 2015, Mr. Spedding was wrongly identified by NSW Police as the prime suspect in the disappearance of 3 year old William Tyrell. Despite having an alibi for the disappearance of William Tyrell, police failed to properly investigate his account and continued to pursue him as a prime suspect. In April 2015, Mr. Spedding was charged by police with serious sexual offences against two children allegedly committed in the 1980s, and it’s alleged that police knew these allegations were unfounded. Following a highly publicised arrest, Mr. Spedding was remanded in custody for two months before being granted bail by the Supreme Court of New South Wales. Throughout his prosecution, Mr. Spedding endured intense media coverage, portraying him as a pedophile, a child abductor and a murderer. In March 2018, he was acquitted of all of those charges. 

In 2019, Mr. Spedding sued New South Wales police for malicious prosecution, claiming that the prosecution had been maliciously initiated and sustained. He argued that there had been no proper investigation into the historical sex offences that he was charged with in 2015, and that the police had withheld evidence of his innocence of those offences. The charges, he contended, were used as a tactic to pressure him further in their investigation into William Tyrell’s disappearance. 

Mr. Spedding won that case and was awarded $1.5 million in damages. The state of New South Wales appealed that decision and lost. The New South Wales Court of Appeal determined that the charges against Mr. Spedding represented the worst case of malicious prosecution demonstrated in New South Wales. 

At first instance, Justice Ian Harrison concluded that the prosecutors had acted with malice in pursuing charges that had already been thoroughly investigated and dismissed in a civil court case during the 1980s. Now as I just said, the state did appeal this decision on both liability and on quantum of damages, but the court rejected the appeal, upholding Justice Harrison’s decision at first instance. The court stated that the “high handed, self serving, grandstanding” actions of the police in arresting, charging, opposing bail, and maintaining the prosecution against Mr. Spedding had no comparable cases in New South Wales.

00:46:40DT:As you say, as you correctly observe, the gravity of that finding weighs against the finding being made according to the Briginshaw standard, it’s still the balance of probabilities, but how serious that finding is naturally weighs on the mind of the tribunal of fact in determining whether or not it’s satisfied. And I’m reminded of Hanlon’s Razor when thinking about maliciousness, that old saying, never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity. It’s a difficult thing to prove.
00:50:30AI:Buffoonery is not malice.
00:50:31DT:That’s right. Before we let you go, Alex, I’d like to finish each interview by asking you a question for our listeners who are just starting out in their legal careers who might be law students or recent graduates. What tips would you have for our listeners who want to upskill in this area, who want to learn a bit more about intentional torts?
00:50:49AI:It’s just to get experience and exposure. There are a number of good texts on this subject. It is certainly a law that’s emerging because of the advent of mobile phone cameras, body worn footage, CCTV cameras that are very clear. So, for a student who is willing to go through and get exposure to torts, it’s not just necessarily against the state of New South Wales. It might be torts against another person, intentional torts, battery against another person. They have access to case law around this emerging area. So my advice is try it, give it a go. The more exposure that you can get to both plaintiff and defendant work, I know that you sort of get pigeonholed quite quickly into plaintiff or defendant work, and sporadically you might do the other side but if it’s available to a young law graduate to do that, it also can be quite rewarding because if you act for the defendant, you are protecting those who serve and protect our community. And if you act for the plaintiff, you might be protecting the interests of vulnerable persons who may not have the ability to undergo it themselves. A lot of people may have interactions with the police, and we see that through the media by way of the strip searches to children at music festivals, and we know what’s happening. And so you may have people who are vulnerable or people who are members of the community who might not have a significant amount of money to throw at proceedings such as this but that doesn’t mean that they’re less important. So there’s two sides of that and both are equally important, protecting the rights of the person from the abuse of powers, arbitrary use of police powers and then, at the same time, protecting the police for them to do their job.
00:52:46DT:Absolutely. Fascinating area and notable causes on both sides of the bar table. Alex, thank you so much for joining me today on Hearsay.
00:52:52AI:Thank you, David.
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