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The State of State Taxes in NSW

Law as stated: 7 August 2020 What is this? This episode was published and is accurate as at this date.
In this episode we speak to Oliver Berkmann about state revenue in NSW, covering areas such as payroll and land tax, reviews and private rulings.
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7 August 2020
Oliver Berkmann
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How does it work?
What area(s) of law does this episode consider?Tax law, specifically New South Wales state revenue.

This episode discusses the assessment of stamp duty, land tax and payroll tax, as well as the process for objecting to assessments and seeking merits review in the Supreme Court or NCAT.  The process of obtaining private rulings is also considered. It also considers the effect of COVID-19 on tax policy, specifically concessions to land tax and payroll tax.

Why is this topic relevant?Lawyers in many fields come across questions of tax law in their practices. Having a basic understanding of taxes at the Federal and State level (this episode focusing on tax law in NSW) will help lawyers to proactively identify tax issues before they arise.
What legislation / practice notes are considered in this episode?Sections 3A, 3B, 10AA of the Land Tax Management Act 1956 (NSW)

Commissioner’s practice note: Foreign surcharges and discretionary trusts (CPN-004 V2)

Section 70 of the Payroll Tax Act 2007 (NSW)

Section 50 of the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth)

Section 89, Part 10 of the Taxation Administration Act 1996 (NSW)

What cases are considered in this episode?
  • CPT Custodian Pty Ltd v Commissioner of State Revenue (2005) 224 CLR 98: the Court found that the entitlements of the unit holders in a trust did not confer proprietary interest in the underlying land and thus did not make the unit holders owners for land tax purposes.
  • Sayden Pty Ltd v Chief Commissioner of State Revenue [2013] NSWCA 111: This case concerns a property unit trust where the units were held by a family trust. The trust deed was amended to mirror the text of s 3A(3B) of the Land Tax Management Act 1956 (NSW). The Commissioner issued a land tax assessment on the basis that the property unit trust was considered a special trust; whereas the taxpayer argued the amendment was sufficient to regard the trust as a fixed trust, and therefore it was entitled to the benefit of the tax-free threshold for land tax purposes. This Court of appeal found for the taxpayer.
What are the main points?The Chief Commissioner of State Revenue has quite a broad range of powers and is responsible for administering taxation law in NSW.

The Chief Commissioner administers:

  • land tax;
  • transfer / stamp duty;
  • first homeowner grants;
  • unclaimed money;
  • fines and fees, i.e. penalty, notices, penalty reminder notices;
  • payroll tax; and
  • miscellaneous, such as mineral royalties.

Land tax: is an annual tax levied at the end of the calendar year. It is based on the combined value of all taxable land held by the land owner. There are exemptions, including: (1) a land owner’s principal place of residence; (2) where the land is used for the dominant purpose of primary production; and (3) land with a taxable value below the land tax threshold. Any changes to land holdings in the current year will only affect how much is levied the following year.

Primary production land: under section 10AA of the Land Tax Management Act 1956 (NSW), rural land is exempt from taxation if it is used for primary production. Section 10AA(3) lists the instances when land is used for the dominant purpose of primary production which includes:

  1. cultivation;
  2. maintenance of animals for sale;
  3. commercial fishing or farming of fish, molluscs, crustaceans or other aquatic animals; or
  4. the keeping of bees for the purpose of selling their honey, or
  5. a commercial plant nursery; or
  6. the propagation for sale of mushrooms, orchids or flowers.

Foreign person surcharge; also known as surcharge purchaser duty, which is an additional duty applicable to foreign purchasers who must pay an additional 8% surcharge based on the value of the land.

‘Takers in default’ comes up in the context of a discretionary trust; it refers to a beneficiary identified in the trust deed for a discretionary trust to receive the income and capital of that trust if the trustee doesn’t exercise its powers to give that income and capital to anyone else. This is important in a discretionary trust because none of the beneficiaries have any right to anything, and distribution is entirely up to the trustee. A taker in default is designated to receive any income or capital that the trustee doesn’t decide to distribute to any other beneficiary.

Payroll tax: is a tax on wages in NSW; if taxable wages exceed $1 million, payroll tax will be payable. Companies can be grouped under section 70 of the Payroll Tax Act 2007 (NSW) where they are related bodies corporate.

Private rulings: can be issued by the Chief Commissioner in response to requests by taxpayers, clients, or their representatives, seeking clarification on the interpretation of the legislation for a specific situation encountered by a particular taxpayer. Unlike private rulings at Federal level which are published on the ATO Legal Database, Revenue NSW does not publish rulings.

What are the practical takeaways?COVID-19 tax relief:

  • Land tax: Revenue NSW has implemented measures to provide relief to commercial and residential land owners with a leasing arrangement or a rental arrangement with a tenant who has an annual turnover of up to $50,000,000, that land holder may be entitled to a reduction or tax relief up to 25%. Regarding the relief measures, it’s only rent forgiveness that is relevant (i.e. the deferral is not relevant); and
  • Payroll tax: payroll tax customers have the option of deferring their payroll tax payments until October 2020.

Land tax: be mindful that land tax is prospective; any changes to base documents, such as trust deeds, or the need for a private ruling must be done prior to 31 December.

Primary production exemption: The exemption applies on a yearly basis which means that it could change over time. The landowner bears the onus of proving that the dominant use is primary production.  The activities of third parties will be relevant.

Objections: a taxpayer can object to a notice of assessment, but under Section 89 of the Taxation Administration Act 1996 (NSW) must do so no later than 60 days after service of the notice of assessment. Once the objection has been lodged, the Chief Commissioner has 90 days to finalise that objection. Once finalised, the objection is either allowed, partly allowed, or disallowed. If it’s disallowed or partly allowed, the taxpayer has the option of seeking external review at NCAT or the Supreme Court.

NCAT or Supreme Court?: Generally, NCAT will receive objections in regards to smaller size claims regarding land tax, stamp duty (on the lower end) and first home owner grants, whereas objections related to complex stamp duty and payroll tax are usually pursued in the Supreme Court.

Show notesRevenue NSW website – Land Tax

Revenue NSW – Land Tax Calculator 

Commissioner’s Practice Note: Foreign surcharges and discretionary trusts (CPN-004v2)

National Code of Conduct on Commercial Tenancies – Leasing Principles

David Turner:Hello and welcome to Hearsay, a podcast about Australian laws and lawyers for the Australian legal profession, my name is David Turner. As always, this podcast is proudly supported by Assured Legal Solutions, a boutique commercial law firm making complex simple.

As the old saying goes there are two certainties in life: death and taxes, and in our federal system of government one of those certainties is two-fold in the form of taxes, state and Commonwealth. But there are just as many pitfalls to look out for in state revenue as there are in Commonwealth taxes. Joining us today on Hearsay to talk about some of those pitfalls and how to avoid them is Oliver Berkmann from 6 St. James Hall Chambers. Oliver thanks so much for joining us today on Hearsay.

Oliver Berkmann:You’re welcome.
DT:

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Now tell us a bit about your background? You’ve had an interesting path to the bar.
OB:I have indeed. So prior to coming to the bar, I was employed at the revenue NSW, which used to be called the Office of State Revenue which is the state equivalent of this Australian taxation office. So in about 2004/2005 I joined as an assessor, so particularly in land tax, and essentially had some senior technical roles. So for a time I was on the technical help desk, help desk for computers, that’s the help desk for issuing of private rulings, public rulings, Commissioner’s practise notes, and for a time I was senior litigation officer where I was responsible for the carriage of matters at NCAT or the Supreme Court when people sought to seek an external review with respect to their objections and appeals. And also for a time I was in the objections unit, I’d gone through the objections just before I left to sit the bar I had a few managerial type positions.
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And that places you well to advise clients today at the private bar on state revenue issues.
OB:Yes, yes indeed, yes.
DT:And tell us today about state revenue issues particularly private rulings, which I’ll come back to later. Now most of our listeners would be familiar with two areas of state revenue at least, transfer duty, what used to be called stamp duty, and land tax. But what are some of the other state revenue issues that you come across?
OB:The chief commissioner has quite a broad range of powers and is responsible for administering a wide ranging taxation law, so some of the other areas that I’m familiar with and as part of revenue NSW areas are first homeowner grants, unclaimed money, fines and fees, so your penalty notices, your penalty reminder notices, payroll tax in particular, and some of the miscellaneous types legislation such as mineral royalties. So the royalties you would pay to the government for the extraction of coal.
DT:Those are also dealt with by the state commissioner?
OB:Yes they’re administered by the chief commissioner.
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It’s quite a broad range. Now at the Commonwealth level, some of our listeners would be familiar with common tax questions there like whether a transaction is subject to GST, or one that I come across in my practice as a commercial lawyer is whether an asset that is a CGT-free asset is going to continue to be CGT-free after a particular transaction, but what are some of the common questions that come up for you? Or that come up for other tax lawyers at the state revenue level?
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Quite a few actually, it’s an area that’s particularly subject to contention is land tax.

TIP: Land tax is an annual tax levied at the end of the calendar year. It’ s based on the combined value of all taxable land held by the taxpayer, not on each individual property. There are exemptions however, including where the land is the taxpayer’s principal place of residence, and where the land is a farm, which is often referred to as primary production land. Also exempt is land with a taxable value below the land tax threshold, which is published in the Government Gazette annually and which in 2020 is $734,000.  Any changes to the taxpayer’s land holdings in the current year will only affect how much is levied the following year. Revenue NSW offers a land tax calculator on their website, and we’ll include a link to this calculator in the show notes.

So a lot of people don’t understand land tax, how it works, how it operates, whether you’re liable or not, in particularly some of the areas that we find there’s quite a bit of need for advice is if it’s a discretionary trust and how to structure your trust in a particular way where you’re fixed trust, what it means if you’re not a fixed trust, how superannuation trusts are treated, how unit trusts are treated, and in particularly the classification of your trust within the context of the foreign surcharge provisions which is an additional land tax or an additional duty depending on whether that entity is a foreign person or not.

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Tell me a little bit about the structuring considerations around whether a trust is a fixed trust or not for the land tax purposes? Because I think even if you’re not a tax specialist, if you’re someone who’s setting up landholding structures or setting up corporate structures it’s a really important thing to understand, isn’t it?
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Oh yeah absolutely, absolutely. So a fixed trust is really defined under the legislation to be a trust where the beneficiaries of that trust have what they call an equitable ownership of the land. So if they’re in a capacity, in a nutshell, if the beneficiaries are in the position to wind up the trust at a particular point of their choosing and have the land transferred to them, or have the trustee sell the property and they receive the net proceeds on it, then that will generally speaking be considered to be fixed trust. That is, a fixed entitlement to an estate. Now it’s important to remember that land taxes are taxes on land, so the trust has to have real property in it. If it doesn’t have real property as part of its holdings, then it’s irrelevant for land tax purposes. A special trust and a common form of special trust is a discretionary trust, is a trust where the beneficiaries of that trust don’t have that equitable ownership, they don’t have that fixed interest in the assets of the trust. And if you’re a fixed trust, the benefits are that you can receive the land tax threshold, so you only pay land tax based on the taxable value of the land above that threshold at 1.6% plus $100. However, if it’s a special trust then you pay land tax from the first $1.
DT:One of the common ways that fixed trust is structured is as a unit trust where unit holders can exercise these certain rights under the trust deed, is that the only way to do it?
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So you can have your general type of fixed trust so for example if I have a trust and I say for example ‘I hold this property on trust for my children in equal shares,’ for an example, that would be fixed trust. If you have a real and apparent purchaser situation where say for example you provided all the purchase monies for a particular block of land, but it’s placed in my name, that’s a resulting trust in favour of you. So you have a complete 100% full interest in that property, that would be a fixed trust. Unit trusts are very very common. Since the decision of CPT Custodian which is around 2005,[1] unit trusts are special trusts.

TIP: That case Oliver just mentioned is the case of CPT Custodian Pty Ltd v The Commissioner of State Revenue, a 2005 High Court case. In that case, the court found that the entitlements of the unit holders in a trust didn’t confer proprietary interest in the underlying land and thus did not make the unit holders owners of the land for land tax purposes. The medium neutral citation to the case will be included in our episode summary.

And the reason why they’re special trust is because the unit holders don’t have that equitable ownership of the land itself. However, there’s an amendment that needs to be inserted into a unit trust deed whereby if you insert what the chief commissioner refers to as the relevant criteria, so if you have a present entitlement to income subject to the payment of proper expenses by the trustee, and you have a present entitlement to capital, and you can wind up the trust, then those entitlements can’t be removed or restricted by the exercise of discretion, then that trust will be deemed to be a fixed trust for the purposes of land tax. And it’s a simple process you can usually put in the clause ‘notwithstanding any other clause within this deed’ and then basically mirror the legislation, which is under section 3A, 3B of the Land Tax Management Act, and by inserting that, that overrides any conflicting clauses within the trust deed and there’s a Court of Appeal decision of that called Sayden and Chief Commissioner if anyone wants to read.[2]

TIP: That case is Sayden Pty Ltd v The Chief Commissioner of State Revenue – that case concerned a land-owning unit trust where the units were held by a family trust. The trust deed was amended, as Oliver has explained, to closely mirror the text of s 3A(3B) of the Land Tax Management Act 1956 (NSW). The Commissioner issued a land tax assessment on the basis that the property unit trust was considered a special trust. The taxpayer essentially argued that the amendment to the trust deed was sufficient to regard the trust as a fixed trust, and therefore it was entitled to the benefit of the tax-free threshold for land tax purposes. This Court of appeal found for the taxpayer. The medium neutral citation Sayden Pty Ltd v Chief Commissioner of State Revenue will be included in our episode summary.

DT:If a practitioner has a unit trust deed that perhaps has already been signed up, put in place, but doesn’t have those relevant provisions, are they able to amend it now and resolve the problem? Or has that ship sailed?
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No, you can amend your trust deed at any time, however, any amendments will only have a prospective effect. So land tax is a tax on all land holdings as at midnight 31st December each year. So whatever you own on that taxing date means you’re liable for the following year. So the 2020 land tax year is midnight 31st of December 2019. So any amendments you make to that unit trust takes effect prospectively. So if we’re talking about amending a trust deed today, then that would be relevant for the trust being a fixed trust for 2021. So if you already had a previous liability for 2020, 2019, 2018 17 etc., if you were taxed as a special trust, then that would remain as special trust.
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Now I remember years ago being told that failing to advise on liability for stamp duty or transfer duty, as we usually describe it now, was one of the main reasons why solicitors received professional indemnity claims, that it was just something that people often forgot to advise on and for that reason it’s often excluded from the scope of work in an engagement letter. Is that still a common problem? Are people still getting transfer duty wrong? Or has the abolishment of things like mortgage duty made a little bit simpler?
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In some respects it’s certainly made it a lot simpler. So in my experience you don’t get the same type of, sort of, negligence claims and hiccups so to speak with respect to your run of the mill transfers of land so to speak of your property. Where the confusion often sets in is how the foreign purchaser surcharge provisions apply. So if you’re a foreign person, you may be liable for an additional 8% duty on top of that transaction and in particular landholder duty. So for example if a company or a unit trust holds land, that reaches the threshold for the landholder provisions and you acquire a controlling interest in that unit trust or in the company, that may trigger the landholder provisions which mean there may be an ad valorem duty on that transaction. So even though you might be acquiring maybe say 80% of the shares in the company, or 80% of the units in a unit trust you may be liable for duty on that transaction because you’re essentially controlling the entity that holds that real property. And if for example those beneficiaries are foreign persons, you may also trigger the foreign purchaser surcharge provisions, which means an additional 8% on top of that. So a lot of the confusion comes with these ancillary sort of transfer provisions, duty provisions which apply to landholder and foreign surcharge.
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I imagine that one where you’re acquiring a controlling interest as a land holder is probably one that a lot of people miss.

Tell me a bit about the foreign person surcharge? Because that’s come up now in the context of both land tax and transfer duty, what is a foreign person for that purpose?

OB:Great question. So a foreign person is as you would expect, a person who is foreign!
DT:So easy!
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So easy, I know, indeed. So there is essentially, just to keep it generalist, there’s two sorts of categories of what is not a foreign person. So first and foremost, if you’re an Australian citizen, you’re not a foreign person. Even if you have dual citizenship. So for example I’m a German citizen, I’m an Australian citizen, the fact that I have dual citizenship does not mean that I’m a foreign person.
DT:Might affect your election to Commonwealth parliament but…
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Possibly. But yes, yes, so if you’re if you’re Australian citizen you’re not a foreign person, and that’s that. If you’re a permanent resident, then you’re not a foreign person provided that you’re in Australia for a period of 200 days prior to the transaction. So if we’re talking about stamp duty, transfer duty, we’re looking at 200 days preceding that. And if we’re talking about land tax, we’re looking at 200 days preceding midnight 31st December. So if you’ve got that permanent residency and you’ve got that 200 days under your belt, then you’re not a foreign person. Now there’s a few other exceptions to this rule, but generally speaking if you don’t fall within those two classifications, you’re a foreign person. Which means that if you acquire residential land, because foreign purchaser and foreign land tax provisions only apply to residential land, then you would be liable for an additional rate of land tax, an additional rate of duty.
DT:Now tell me a little bit about the extent to which these surcharge provisions apply to entities that aren’t natural persons? Because they can apply to discretionary trusts.
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Indeed. So it’s not limited to whether or not you’re natural persons. So for example if you’re talking about a trust, the trust is defined as a foreign person through the classification of its beneficiaries. And that’s a common misconception that a lot of people see. So for example if we’re dealing with a trust, just say it’s a discretionary trust, under the terms of the discretionary trust and under legislation any beneficiary of that discretionary trust is deemed to have a maximum interest in that trust. Which means that if any of your beneficiaries in the discretionary trust are a foreign person, then that trust would be deemed to be a foreign person.
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So you could have company incorporated under the Corporations Act, the shareholders are Australian citizens, it’s the trustee of a discretionary trust, one of the main beneficiaries in that discretionary trust is a permanent resident who hasn’t been in Australia for the past 200 days before a transaction, even if all of their relatives who are the other residuary beneficiaries are all Australian citizens, that trust will be deemed a foreign person?
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Yes. And yes it even extends further to that. So splitting it up into a main beneficiary and also a taker in default, if any of the takers in default are a foreign person or could be a foreign person, that may deem that discretionary trust to be a foreign person.

TIP: Now the term ‘takers in default’ comes up a couple of times throughout this episode in the context of a discretionary trust. In simple terms, it refers to a beneficiary identified in the trust deed for the discretionary trust to receive the income of that trust if the trustee doesn’t exercise its powers to give that income to anyone else. This is important in a discretionary trust because the trust is, well, discretionary – none of the beneficiaries have any right to anything, and it’s entirely up to the trustee who gets what.  But if the trustee doesn’t distribute the income of the trust, it’s taxed at a much higher rate, and depending on the terms of the trust deed, it might even be a breach of trust – so a taker in default is designated to receive any income that the trustee doesn’t decide to distribute to any other beneficiary.

So for example, if you had a discretionary trust where the terms were Joe Blow as trustee and then Joe Blow’s spouse and children and any charity or any other trust that Joe Blow or his family is involved with or controls, then that in itself could trigger the provisions for foreign surcharge. To the extent that if you have a beneficiary for example which is a corporation, it would need to be an Australian corporation or incorporated in Australia. Or if you have a charitable institution as a taker in default or as a beneficiary, it would need to be an Australian charity to that extent which is why Revenue NSW implemented some legislation recently to, for people to amend their discretionary trust deeds in order to cater for these circumstances, in order to negate the operation of the foreign surcharge provisions.

DT:Tell me more about that legislation, because I imagine there’s probably a few of our listeners who’ve put together some discretionary trust structures who might be thinking ‘oh I hope that I’ve done this right.’
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Yeah, no, indeed it’s very interesting. So first and foremost, foreign surcharge whether it’s land tax or whether it’s transfer duty, they both piggyback off the same definition of what a foreign person is. And essentially the amendments that you need to make and the laws with respect to both of them are the same. So what’s good for stamp duty is usually good for land tax if I can say that. So in terms of amendments you need to make according to the legislation and the Commissioner’s practise note is 004 if you’re interested which outlines what you need to do to amend the trust deed, is if you have a main beneficiary, which is foreign person, that person needs to be excluded as a beneficiary under the trust.

TIP: CPN-004 is a reference to the Commissioner’s Practice Note on Foreign Surcharges and Discretionary Trusts, which was issued in July 2020. That Practice Note outlines how surcharge purchaser duty and surcharge land tax will be applied in certain situations where land is held by a discretionary trust. We’ll include a link to the Practice Note in the show notes.

If you have any takers in default, then you also need to have a clause within there that prevents any distribution to occur to any such persons who are foreign persons. So one of the ways people have been doing this is somewhat like the unit trust provisions and the relevant criteria in inserting an overriding clause, or I mean it gets a bit complicated, but generally speaking if you’ve got a main beneficiary you might want to look at removing them if they’re a main beneficiary, and for the takers in default you want to have an exclusion clause which makes them as an exclusive beneficiary or prevents under no uncertain terms that no distribution can be made to those beneficiaries. And moving forward, those amendments have to be essentially locked in. So once you exclude such persons as being a beneficiary, the trust deed must provide that you can’t then go and change that. So for example for land tax purposes it’s as at midnight 31st December so you can’t have a clause with that trust deed which says as at midnight 31st December these people aren’t foreign persons and then the 1st of January it changes and goes back and forth. So it really has to be irrevocable in terms of preventing any distributions to any foreign persons now and in the future.

DT:And that legislation that enables those amendments, is that only prospective or is it also retrospective?
OB:Well the legislation which came in, you do have a time period in order to amend it and the legislation just went through so if you get your trust deeds through now hopefully you should be OK. So, you should have a bit of time left to make those amendments and send them off to the chief commissioner, and if you’re uncertain you can ask for a private ruling as to whether those amendments are suitable or not. But generally speaking I wouldn’t delay in that regard and the sooner you can send it in the better.
DT:We’re recording this in early August, so if you’re listening in 2022 it’s a bit too late.
OB:So, no, definitely get them done as soon as you can, I would suggest yeah.
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Now with state revenue, and land tax in particular, there are often exceptions to the rule, exceptions to the liability to pay land tax and I suppose some of those would be the subject of quite a bit of contention, because quite a bit of money could turn or whether an exception or not applies. Can you tell me a bit about an experience you’ve had in terms of a dispute about whether an exception applies?
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One of the areas of litigation in land tax in particular is an exemption called the primary production of land exemption. And the primary production land exemption is an exemption for land that is dominantly used for primary production activities. One of the issues that often arise with respect to the exemption for primary production land is situations where part of the land is used for primary production purposes and another part of the land is used for non-primary production purposes and a common example is residential development. So particularly on the outskirts of Sydney you’ll have these parcels of land which are used for farming purposes, however, due to a change in zoning by the local council, land that was previously rural land is now residential land. And as part of that rezoning, part of the land becomes developed into residential blocks of land, or apartment complexes, or for commercial uses. And the way the legislation operates is the dominant use of the land has to be for primary production.

TIP: Oliver is referring here to section 10AA of the Land Tax Management Act 1956 NSW which provides at subparagraph (1) that rural land is exempt from taxation if it is used for primary production. Subparagraph 3 of that section defines land used for primary production as land where the dominant purpose for which it is used is one of a number of specified primary production uses such as (a) cultivation of crops; or (b) maintenance of animals for sale.

So it’s an exercise whereby you have to weigh up all the physical uses of the land and determine which one is most dominant. And this often pops up as an area of dispute because you might have a situation where you’ll have a block of land being used as farm for many many many years, but because of the rezoning of the land and because the landowner wishes to develop part of that land into residential blocks or houses or what have you, then the exemption is lost. Because the nature and the intensity of the residential use, the commercial use, the development use, exceeds that of the primary production use.

DT:It’s such a question of fact and degree isn’t it? That tipping point at which that longstanding farming enterprise, is then outweighed by the residential development. And I imagine it does come up all the time as urban sprawl continues to grow. Oliver, can you tell me about a case you’ve worked on, perhaps in your time at the private bar, where the surprising result in terms of where that tipping point lay between a primary production use and another use?
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Sure. So one of the cases at my time at the bar involved a large parcel of land and just on the outskirts of Sydney that was used for primary production, and still is used for primary production, for quite some time. But as a result of some rezoning by the local council, what the land-owners have done is have a dual use. So they’ve got existing primary production activities but as a result of that they’ve cordoned off or they’ve cut off part of the land, not on title, but physically via a fence where part of the land is being developed and part of the land is still useful for primary introduction. And the question arose there is, well how do you measure two of the uses? So there’s a range of factors that come into play. One is the area square metres associated with each use and another factor is the level of intensity, capital investment and income associated with each use and the physical activity of construction as compared to the maintenance, in this case was cows.
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That’s an interesting thing because those two techniques kind of compete with one another, don’t they? Because if you’ve got a primary production use like pasturing, right, that’s a lot of square metres being used, but the kind of income per square metre might be quite low because so much land is being used. Whereas the area that’s being developed might be comparatively quite small, but the level of capital investment in that smaller area could be massive.
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Indeed and commercial development and residential development is quite costly. And indeed one of the factors that you take into account is the level of effort or labour employed in each use. So often what happens, in particular in this case, you had quite a number of people employed contractors, employees, bulldozers, cranes, earthworks equipment just developing the land from a pastoral land into a residential suburb, so to speak. Where at the same time a couple of metres away you have quite a large number of cattle literally next to the residential development. So yeah, it’s an interesting question and it’s a matter of fact and degree. So the courts typically taken on a broad common sense basis, so what would a typical objective observer see when looking at it? What is the dominant use of the land? And essentially it’s a weighing up exercise. We have to take into account, and we did have to take into account quite a large number of factors involved, in putting our case forward.
DT:But I can really see the attractiveness of not having that land separated in terms of title, at least yet, because of course you do benefit from having it treated as the same land for land tax purposes until that happens, but there’s of course such a risk that you’re then going to pass that tipping point, that’s not going to be primary production land anymore and then the whole the area is subject to land tax. And with that kind of question, such a question of fact and degree, is that the sort of thing that you can resolve by private ruling?
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Typically, no. Land tax is an annual tax so the exemption and the criteria associated with the primary production land exemption applies on a yearly basis. So long as the facts are changing, and they are changing year by year, the result of whether or not a land owner is entitled to the exemption would change on a year by year basis. But one of the factors that you have to remember when it comes to land tax and indeed tax legislation, is that the onus rests on the taxpayer to prove their case. And in some circumstances that can actually be quite a high onus to establish and to prove. So for example, just a simple example of the primary production land exemption, if an owner has received an assessment for 5 years, for example, they need to establish the exemption for each of those five years. And you need to look both before and after the taxing data midnight 31st December. So essentially with these primary production cases, moving forward if you were to proceed to NCAT or the Supreme Court, the onus is on the taxpayer to establish how many animals were on the land at each point in time for each land tax year, and that needs to be quantified 6 months before really, and 6 months after to measure the intensity of the use. Same with finances. How many people were employed? How many workers did you have developing the land? What’s your profit and loss statements? How much income you received from the primary production activities for each of those years? So there’s quite often a very high evidentiary onus or threshold that needs to be met particularly if the land is zoned other than rural land, so ¡¡ just say its zoned residential land, that must be met by the landowner in order to satisfy this particular exemption. And sometimes it can be difficult in the sense that the exception can apply in situations where the owner doesn’t conduct the activities themselves. So the majority of cases when you’re looking at an exemption for land tax, the land owner must own it and use it for a particular purpose. But for primary production land ownership is somewhat irrelevant in the sense that you can agist your land to a third party and it’s the activities of that third party that can also exempt the land. I guess there’s a level of complexity associated with the landholder trying to ascertain the information from third parties in order to establish an exemption.
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Yeah, that is quite a high onus and I suppose particularly as you’re describing if that countervailing or that secondary purpose is residential development, of course all of those factors are going to be changing not just year to year, but even month to month as the works are being completed. And you mentioned private rulings which we’ll come back to shortly. But one other area of state revenue that we mentioned earlier was payroll tax. Now payroll tax is an interesting one to me because it often comes up in structuring considerations for new businesses. Particularly for businesses that are expected to grow their headcount in the relatively short term, and it’s an area that’s well understood by payroll specialists who might be lay people, but quite poorly understood by many lawyers. Tell me a bit about payroll tax, what are the thresholds for paying it and what are the sorts of issues that can make it difficult to work out whether a company or a business has hit that threshold?
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Sure, not a problem. So generally speaking, the way state taxes operates is whether it’s land tax, payroll tax, or stamp duties, the legislation casts a very wide net so it captures quite a large extent of people who could be taxpayers and then it essentially whittles that down by a threshold for example, or sliding scale, or a number of exemptions. So just probably bear that in mind, that by way of tax laws, nature of state tax laws, you could be liable to pay payroll tax for example even if you don’t know you’re liable to pay payroll tax and the legislation makes it pretty clear that the onus rests on the taxpayer to lodge returns and make a disclosure. So it really comes down to the taxpayer, the person, the company, the entity, whatever would you want to say, to make those declarations made and to lodge those returns like you would with the ATO to Revenue NSW to disclose everything. So that’s important. So the way payroll tax operates is it’s a tax on wages so to speak. Taxable wages is what matters. So there are certain wages which are not taxable, and there are certain wages which are taxable. And from there what you do is you essentially aggregate those taxable wages and then you apply a threshold. In terms of the tax-free threshold it’s increased from $900,000 to $1,000,000 for this financial year.
DT:So if your taxable wages in your business are below $1,000,000, no need to submit a payroll tax return?
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It depends. At the end of the year you will do an annual reconciliation. So it is possible in some circumstances you will need to have to pay payroll tax, but over a period of time you might not have to payroll tax. It just depends on the circumstances. But generally speaking so, the way it operates is taxable wages in NSW are taken into account I guess for payroll tax purposes. So the way it operates is if you have, for example a group of businesses, which pay payroll tax, let’s say you have a company that’s related to another company in Victoria and a company in NSW, the legislation provides that still you take into account all those wages but the way it operates is essentially the threshold is carved out. So depending on how much wages you paid in different jurisdictions, that gets taken into account for NSW. So in order for wages to be paid that are paid, taxable wages to be liable for NSW payroll tax, there has to be a sufficient connection with NSW.
DT:And so that sufficient connection with NSW might not mean the location of that employee, right? It might be the case that an employee in Victoria who’s performing some work that does have a connection with NSW, their wages would be taken into account?
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In some circumstances yes and in some circumstances no. There’s a range of provisions which come into play for the Chief Commissioner to turn his mind to basically in determining whether or not the wage is in NSW or not. But generally speaking, if your taxable wages exceed $1,000,000 now, you’re liable to pay payroll tax on that. And there’s a lot of sort of pitfalls I guess or areas that you need to be aware of with payroll tax. One area in particular are the grouping provisions. That’s an area which often crops up as whether or not particular entities are grouped or not. So under the grouping provisions if companies are related under the Corporations Act, they’re grouped.

TIP: Corporations can be grouped together under section 70 of the Payroll Tax Act 2007 where they are related bodies corporate, which is defined by section 50 in the Corporations Act 2001 (Cth). A corporation will be grouped with another corporation where it either: holds more that 50% of the issued share capital of that other corporation, if it controls the board of that corporation, or if it controls more than 50% of the voting shares in that corporation.

And it’s not possible to ungroup those. The Chief Commissioner has discretion to ungroup certain groups. Entities can be grouped for example, through trusts, they can be grouped with common employees. So for example if you’re a company and I’m a company but we have a common employee, so we have an employee or employees that provide services to both of us, some circumstances we can be grouped. In other circumstances it could be controlling the interest of companies, it could also be relationships between certain businesses as well. So there’s a whole range of provisions that come into play where certain entities can be grouped and you only get a threshold per group.

DT:In another episode of Hearsay we spoke with a guest about the fraught distinction between an employee and a contractor, particularly in the gig economy where some employees might be described as contractors but are substantively employees, does that distinction between employee and contractor affect your payroll tax liability?
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Yes it does. So employees’ wages, or wages attributed to an employee, get factored to get your payroll tax liability. The question arises as to whether you should have a contractor for example whether the remuneration paid to those contractors are   taken to be wages or not. There are certain criteria that come into play to define or to work out whether or not someone is a contractor or whether someone is an employee. Some of those criteria for example are if the contractor wears the uniforms of the employer so to speak. Whether they pay their own superannuation, how much directional control is given over that contractor, there’s a whole range of factors that come into play which is ultimately really a question of fact of whether or not that contractor falls within the legislation or not. There’s also a range of exemptions that can come into play. If there’s a relevant contract whereby you can exempt certain payments to contractors depending on the circumstances of, or the nature, of the engagement. So for example there’s an exemption for people who are delivery truck drivers. So for example if you have an industry or you have a business and you engage contractors and their sole purpose is really to deliver a particular item, and that’s all they’re doing, then there’s an exemption in relation to those sort of activities.
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Yeah right, so I guess there’s that typical distinction between employee and contractor which as you said often turns on the extent of control exercised by the employer/principal. But there are in the payroll tax space this specific kind of industry related exemptions. And if our listeners would like to learn more about the distinction between employees and contractors they can listen to my interview with Nicola Martin from McCabe Curwood.

Now we’re recording this in August 2020 as I said earlier and we couldn’t talk about this area without talking about the effect of the COVID-19 pandemic on tax policy settings because COVID-19 has had an unprecedented and sudden impact on the Australian economy and tax settings both at the Commonwealth and state level are one of those levers that government can pull to kind of ameliorate the effect of that. Can you tell me a bit about some of the concessions or temporary measures that have been made at the state level as a result of COVID-19?

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Sure. So there’s two main measures that have been implemented for state taxes, and the first is in the area of land tax and the second is payroll tax. So with respect to land tax, Revenue NSW has implemented some measures to provide relief to commercial and residential land owners. So if you’ve got a leasing arrangement or a rental arrangement with a commercial tenant who has an annual turnover of up to $50,000,000, or a residential tenant, you may be entitled to a reduction or tax relief in the order of up to, and I stress the word up to, 25%. So one of the criteria in relation to that is if your tenant, either commercial or residential, is suffering from financial distress. Now financial distress for commercial tenants is defined really as a reduction in turnover compared to a previous comparable period of 30% or more, and for residential tenants a reduction household income of 25% or more.
DT:So that former test is obviously reflective of the JobKeeper eligibility test?
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Yes, it sort of mirrors those sorts of conditions. And one of the things you have to remember is you need to afford your tenant rent relief. And it can’t be a temporary measure. So if you reduce the rent for example for the commercial tenant or your residential tenant but it’s a condition that they would pay that amount in the future or reimburse you or repay what you’ve essentially deferred, if it’s a deferral only, then you’re not entitled to these measures. Any rent relief you give to these tenants needs to be permanent.
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That’s quite an interesting dynamic actually because of course under the mandatory code for rent relief in commercial leases up to 50% of the rent relief that a commercial landlord is required to give, can be in the form of a deferral.

TIP: A quick aside now about commercial rent relief. I’m referring here to the National Code of Conduct on Commercial Tenancies. The National Code applies to tenants with a turnover less than $50 million and who are entitled to receive payments under the JobKeeper program. The code gives direction to landlords on considering requests for rent relief by commercial tenants who are experiencing financial stress as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic. The Code restricts landlords from taking some types of enforcement action under leases against these affected tenants. It also prevents landlords from terminating leases or drawing on a tenant’s security, like their bond, during the pandemic period (which is the period during which the JobKeeper payment regime is available), or any reasonable recovery period following the pandemic. For eligible tenants, landlords are required to reduce the rent payable under the lease, in the form of either a waiver or a deferral, on a case by case basis, in proportion to the reduction of the tenant’s turnover. So, if a business has suffered a 30% reduction in turnover, which would entitle it to participate in the JobKeeper scheme, then the rent will be reduced by the same proportion – 30%. And at least 50% of the rent reduction, or 15% of the rent in our present case, has to be in the form of a waiver, in order words, that it’s not repayable later with the balance being deferred until after the end of the COVID-19 pandemic period.

And so I suppose those of our listeners who are advising commercial landlords on those rent relief arrangements need to be aware that although as far as the mandatory code is concerned, part of that rent relief can be made by way of deferral and part of it can be made by way of forgiveness, it’s only that part made by way of forgiveness that’s relevant so far is that land tax concession is concerned.

OB:Yes.
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Now as I said at the top of the episode, there are only two certainties in life: death and taxes, but in the tax law area it’s highly technical and the answers are anything but certain and it may be necessary in the particular circumstances of a transaction to seek a private ruling.

TIP: Private rulings can be sought from the ATO at the Commonwealth level and from Revenue NSW at the state level. A private ruling is issued by the Chief Commissioner of State Revenue in response to requests by taxpayers, clients, or their representatives, seeking clarification on the interpretation of legislation for a specific situation encountered by that particular taxpayer. These rulings do not have the force of law, but they’re issued to assist taxpayers in determining their tax liability or clarify the interpretation of tax laws.

As someone who’s had quite a bit to do with the private ruling process from both sides of the table I suppose, tell me a little bit about how that process gets started. When is it most appropriate to seek a private ruling?

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Sure, so the purpose of a private ruling is to provide certainty, or I guess clarification, on a proposed transaction. It’s not there to make a decision or to give you an answer to a transaction that’s already been entered into. So for example if you, if you’re asking yourself ‘if I purchase this property how much stamp duty will I pay’ or ‘if I buy these shares will I be subject to landholder duty,’ in circumstances where you’re proposing to enter into a transaction, those types of scenarios might be suitable for a private ruling. If you have the situation where you’ve already executed certain documents, then that’s not a private ruling scenario. That’s a question of whether or not you’re liable for, for example, transfer duty on that transaction. Not whether you will be liable for transfer duty on particular transactions. So the circumstances where you would look to ask for a private ruling or request a private ruling is particularly in circumstances where you have complex commercial transactions, and you want certainty as to whether or not entering into that transaction will result in a particular liability. So for example, like I mentioned before, landholder duty. So if you want to determine or work out essentially whether or not if you buy these shares or buy these units whether you would be liable for landholder duty, you can seek a private ruling. There are all types of private rules you can seek and essentially the process is before you enter into that transaction you lodge a private ruling online, they have online facilities now with Revenue NSW. As part of that process you need to sign a declaration that you’re providing, making a full and frank disclosure, that you’re providing all the details relevant to the proposed transactions along with all the relevant documentation. So if you’ve been dishonest or you haven’t made a full and frank disclosure or there’s other factors that came into play that the Chief Commissioner wasn’t aware of, then the private ruling will not have the force that you can rely on that you would ordinarily expect. So that is the process that you can request from the, from Revenue NSW. It’s been awhile since I was there but generally speaking it takes around 6 to 8 weeks in order to get an answer, might be a bit longer now, giving everything that’s going on, but you’re probably looking at a month and a half/two months to receive an answer. And from there you have some sort of certainty as to whether or not you would be liable for that. So another scenario that comes on, I’ll give you probably an example, is surcharge provisions, the amendments of your trust deeds. So a scenario where if you wanted to know whether your proposed amendments to your discretionary trustee would satisfy the legislation so as to not incur land tax surcharge or purchaser surcharge, that would be a scenario that you may want to look at in writing to the Chief Commissioner with the existing trust deed with your proposed amendments and seeking a private ruling as to whether those amendments would be sufficient in order to comply with legislation.
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An effective way to cover off on those issues that we were describing earlier, particularly concerning discretionary trusts.
OB:But just bear in mind that time is of the essence so to speak. So if you are seeking a private ruling with respect to land tax and taxing day is midnight 31st December, you want to give yourself sufficient time in order to get that ruling, because you still have to execute those documents afterwards. You can’t execute those documents and then ask for a private ruling.
DT:Don’t log onto Revenue NSW on the 26th of December.
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No you probably won’t get an answer within 5 days. So just bear that in mind that private rulings take time, and if you can as much as possible I guess, plan for a sufficient amount of time to get that answer back so you can work out whether or not you should proceed with the transaction, that’s probably the best way of doing it.
DT:Private rulings made by the ATO are published online, though of course they can’t be relied upon, are they published online at the state level?
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No so unless things have changed, and I doubt they have, the private rulings are private rulings. So the Chief Commissioner will communicate with the taxpayer or the agent who lodged the private ruling, so you won’t find any private rulings on the revenue NSW website.
DT:I suppose it’s, in one sense, it’s avoiding a pitfall that sometimes people make at the Commonwealth level which is to rely on a private ruling that’s made in the unique circumstances of that particular taxpayer and so the answer of course here is if you feel that do need the clarification of a private ruling to apply for one yourself.
OBYes.
DTIf you’re unhappy with the result of a private ruling, is at the end of the process or is there something more you can do to try and clarify the answer?
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Well essentially what you can do is if you are unhappy with the result of the private ruling, then your option is to either restructure your transaction or do it in a different way, or proceed with what you proposed to do and then dispute the assessment should you be liable for that particular tax. So there’s really no avenue whereby you can further dispute a private ruling, well as far as revenue NSW is concerned.
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I suppose you’re then aware that if you’re going to proceed with the transaction in the form that you’ve contemplated that you are going to have to dispute that assessment. What is the process for disputing an assessment?
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So the process of disputing an assessment is if the Chief Commissioner has issued an assessment or a decision, you have 60 days to lodge an objection disputing that assessment or decision.

TIP: These timeframes come from section 89 of the Taxation Administration Act 1996 which states that an objection must be lodged with the Chief Commissioner of State Revenue no later than 60 days after the date of service of the notice of assessment.

There is a provision involved whereby you can ask for an extension of time in order to lodge an objection late, but that’s subject to the discretion of the Chief Commissioner. So you may or may not convince the Chief Commissioner to accept an objection late. There’s a variety of factors that come into play; in particular what comes into play is the length of the delay. So whether you’re just outside the 60 days or alternatively whether you’re years outside of the 60 days. And in particular whether or not you have an arguable case. So whether on the face of it, the assessment is issued incorrectly or the decision was made incorrectly. Once you’ve lodged an objection, the chief commissioner has 90 days to finalise that objection. If it’s not finalised within 90 days, you can then seek a review at NCAT or the Supreme Court but you need to give them 14 days’ notice before doing so. Once the objection is finalised, it’s either allowed, partly allowed, or disallowed. If it’s disallowed or partly allowed, you then have the option of seeking an external review at NCAT or the Supreme Court.

DT:And so you can elect between NCAT or straight to the Supreme Court?
OB:Correct. But you can’t do both.
DT:You can’t do both. What are the kind of, I suppose, decision factors that go into making an election between pursuing that appeal through NCAT or through the Supreme Court?
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Well they’re two different jurisdictions but they essentially perform the same function. So under part 10 of the Taxation Administration Act both can perform a, what they call, a merits review which is a review de novo whereby either the Supreme Court or NCAT stands in the shoes of the decision maker and makes the decision. In the Supreme Court it’s generally a costs jurisdiction. In NCAT you can be awarded costs for or against you, but generally speaking it’s pretty rare.
DT:It’s pretty rare.
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So it really depends upon the complexity of the matter. If you’re unsuccessful in NCAT or if the Chief Commissioner is unsuccessful, you can go to the appeal panel of NCAT and then from there you proceed to the Court of Appeal. So the avenue with NCAT is NCAT at first instance, appeal panel, Court of Appeal. Or if you go to the Supreme Court, it’s the Supreme Court and then from there, the Court of Appeal.
DT:Could you give us an example perhaps from your time at revenue NSW of the sort of transaction that tends to proceed down the Supreme Court route and the sort of transaction that tends to proceed down the NCAT route?
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So with the NCAT route, a lot of the time you’ll see a review with respect to, just for example, a first home owner grant. It’s usually $7000 it’s, relatively speaking, not a large amount. Not saying it’s not important for people but in terms of…
DT:Not worth the cost exposure.
OB:Exactly right. So you do see a lot of land tax matters in NCAT, you do see some first home owner grant matters in NCAT, some of the smaller stamp duty matters. So with the Supreme Court type of matters that you usually see are the complex stamp duty matters and payroll tax matters. Now it’s not uncommon that you’ll see them both in NCAT and the Supreme Court.
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Oliver, we were talking before the episode that tax lawyers are a breed unto themselves, that you have to be a bit of a nerd for the technical details to really thrive in this area. I’ve learned a lot from this interview and I’m sure our listeners have as well, but I think the thing I’d take away from this episode is that if there’s one of these difficult questions about a state revenue issue then what our listeners should definitely be doing is considering whether a private ruling or consulting a tax specialist is appropriate.
OB: Indeed, yes. There’s a lot of factors that come into play and often people will enter into transactions not knowing the taxation implications of structuring their ownership a particular way.
DT:Yeah absolutely. Oliver thanks so much for joining us today on Hearsay.
OB:My pleasure, thank you for having me.
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You’ve been listening to Hearsay The Legal Podcast. I’d like to thank our guest Oliver Berkmann from 6 St James Hall Chambers for coming on the show. Now if you liked this episode about state revenue, try out our episode about estate planning with Simon Bennett which has a number of tax dimensions. Or for something different that’s still property related, try my interview with Samantha Saw from Speirs Ryan about the rise of strata law. If you’re an Australian legal practitioner, you can claim 1 CPD unit for listening to this episode. Whether an activity entitles you to claim a CPD point is self-assessed, but we suggest that this episode constitutes an activity in the substantive law field. If you’ve claimed 5 CPD points for audio content already this year, you might need to access our multimedia content to claim further points from listening to Hearsay. Visit htlp.com.au for more information on claiming and tracking your points on our platform. The Hearsay team is Tim Edmeades who puts our sound together, Kirti Kumar who writes our educational content, Araceli Robledo who manages business development and books all of our guests, and me, David Turner. Nicola Cosgrove is our executive producer and director. Hearsay The Legal Podcast is proudly supported by Assured Legal Solutions, making complex simple. You can find all of our episodes as well as summaries, transcripts, quizzes and more at htlp.com.au. That’s HTLP for Hearsay The Legal Podcast.com.au. Thanks for listening and we’ll see you next time.

[1] CPT Custodian Pty Ltd v Commissioner of State Revenue (2005) 224 CLR 98.

[2] Sayden Pty Ltd v Chief Commissioner of State Revenue [2013] NSWCA 111.